Subro Sessions

White and Williams has one of the longest-standing Subrogation Practices in the nation. This series of the Subro Sessions podcast, entitled “Getting to Know Subro,” is hosted by Partner, Lian Skaf. In this episode, Lian interviews Associate, Katherine Dempsey, a member of the Subrogation Department, to discuss how she chose the area of Subrogation law to launch her legal career, her focus on family, and how she spends time out of the office sharing cooking tips and recipes on her "Finsta" account.

This episode of the Subro Sessions podcast, “The Lease Says What? A Closer Look at the
Sutton Doctrine in Michigan,” is hosted by Katherine Dempsey, Melissa Kenney and
Zachariah Sigda, Associates. This episode discusses the topic of the applicability of the Sutton
Doctrine in states where this law is viewed on a case-by-case basis for subrogation claims
related to property damage matters involving landlords and tenants.

This episode of the Subro Sessions podcast, the second in the two-part series entitled: “Speak
Now or Forever Sign That Release - Part 2,” is hosted by Gus Sara and Lian Skaf,
Partners. This episode discusses the topic of subrogation releases including guidance on writing
indemnification provisions, what constitutes a valid subrogation claim by a carrier, and how to
limit exposure while ensuring fairness and protection for all parties involved.

This episode of the Subro Sessions podcast, the first of a two-part series entitled: “Speak Now or Forever Sign That Release - Part 1,” is hosted by Gus Sara and Lian Skaf, Partners. This episode discusses the topic of subrogation settlement releases including guidance for the parties that draft the releases, obstacles that subrogation professionals typically run into, inclusion of the insured as a signatory and suggestions on specific language to use in the settlement process.

White and Williams has one of the longest-standing #Subrogation Practices in the nation. This series of the Subro Sessions podcast, entitled “Getting to Know Subro,” is hosted by Lian Skaf, Partner. In this episode, Lian interviews Chris Konzelmann, Partner and Chair of the Subrogation Department, to discuss his 35 years with the firm while volunteering as a fire captain in Moorestown, New Jersey.

This episode of Subro Sessions, entitled “Builders Risk Losses: Are Additional Insureds Always Subrogation Proof?” is hosted by David Huberman, Partner. David covers the topic of builders risk losses and circumstances where the anti-subrogation rule may not bar subrogation against a responsible party who is also an additional insured under a builders risk policy, while emphasizing the importance of identifying whether the jurisdiction the loss occurred in recognizes exceptions to the anti-subrogation rule.

Partners, Lian Skaf and Matt Ferrie, are back for the second part of their series titled, “Part 2: How to Make the Public Sector an Ally and not a ‘Public Enemy’.” John Lightbody, CFI, CFEI, CFII, Chief Investigator and President of Find The Cause Investigations, LLC, joins Lian and Matt to continue their discussion on subrogation professionals who work with the public sector in large-loss fire scene joint investigations. This episode also explores examples of claims going into litigation and provides case examples where the public and private sector investigators have a difference of opinion in the cause of the fire.

Listen to the newest episode of Subro Sessions, hosted by Lian Skaf and Matthew Ferrie, Partners at White and Williams, entitled, “How to Make the Public Sector an Ally and not a ‘Public Enemy’.” John Lightbody, CFI, CFEI, CFII, Chief Investigator and President of Find The Cause Investigations, LLC, joins Lian and Matt to talk about the best practices for subrogation professionals when working with the public sector during fire investigations including what to do on site, decorum, obtaining the proper investigation documentation and working with both federal and state agencies.

This episode of Subro Sessions, hosted by associates Zachariah Sigda and Katherine Dempsey, entitled, “Insured Made Whole Doctrine: Texas and Washington State,” dives into the topic of the made whole doctrine. Zachariah and Katherine define the made whole doctrine and explain how the doctrine applies in both Texas and Washington state courts, using those states to show how the doctrine can vary state-to-state. Thus, it is important for subrogation professionals to consider the made whole doctrine before pursuing recovery. 

The newest episode of the Subro Sessions podcast, is hosted by Gus Sara, Partner, and Michael DeBona, Counsel, who are joined by guest J. Pablo Ross, PE, of Ross Engineering. The episode, entitled “Water Losses 101: A Discussion of Common Causes of Water Losses and How to Investigate Them – Part 2,” gives insight into the role of the attorney in a joint-evidence investigation, steps that subrogation professionals and experts take to complete the analysis, make appropriate recommendations to the client and the process of evidence lab examinations.